[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, thanks so much for listening to this message. My name is Jason, and I'm one of the ministers here at the Madison Church of Christ. It's our hope and prayer that the teaching you hear today will bless your life and draw you closer to God. If you're ever in the Madison area, we'd love for you to stop by and study the Bible with us on Sundays at 5pm or Wednesdays at 7pm if you have questions about the Bible or want to know more about the Madison Church, you can find us
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[00:00:36] Speaker B: The title for the class is Words of Wisdom. And then when I got the email asking me to be a part of that, I said, what?
You got the wrong guy on that one. And then especially with this topic right here.
So I'm going to change it from Words of Wisdom to lessons I've learned the hard way.
How many guys in here are married?
Whoa. Okay.
How many guys in here are not married?
Okay, we got a few.
All right, Anybody in here been married a year or less?
5 years or less?
10 years or less?
100 years or less? No, just kidding.
Okay, anybody been here in here been married 20 years between, say, 10 and 20?
Okay, 20 and 30. 30 and 40. 40 and 50.
Okay, you're getting there.
Anybody been married over 50?
I have.
I've got some questions I want you to look at. Okay.
First of all, I want you to be turning in your Bible or on your device to Matthew chapter 19. We're going to be looking at that in just a moment.
Okay. I want you to don't answer these out loud, okay? Because it might be necessary to call a sheriff in on you. But do you still like being married?
Do you hope to stay married for the rest of your life?
Are you already having questions about being able to or wanting to stay married to that person?
Do you have doubts that you can do it now?
Do you think that people who have been married, say, 10 years or less would answer this different from, say, somebody that was married 15, 20, 25 years?
Would those questions be answered differently?
Why?
How do we change numerous ways. You said it numerous ways.
[00:03:15] Speaker C: I mean, hopefully we mature about some things.
We see enough life to recognize maybe this is not what I thought it was. Or, wow, look at what I have that I didn't realize I had. I think we change in lots of ways.
I'm talking about us.
[00:03:35] Speaker B: And really generally, the longer this is my thinking, the longer we stay married, the more mature we become. And maybe that's that change you're talking about.
And we learn better how to be happy and make things go well and be stable in our marriages.
Therefore, it should be easier to stay married the longer we are married. That's not always the case, but maybe it should be.
But in our culture, in our society today, the truth is only.
Well, let me go back. Sandra and I were married 58 years before she died.
This year would have been our 60th.
In fact, just 35 days ago, we would have celebrated our 60th anniversary.
Now that doesn't make me an expert by any means because we were still working on it.
But here's the thing about it.
If these questions are serious, because in our society about 50% of people will not make it to 40 or 50 years. And that's not because they died. It's because they just don't make it in their marriages.
Now with us in here, that's going to be different.
Why?
Come on, you got to have reasons to stay married. God's in the picture, all right?
God is in the picture and that makes a difference. Hang on to that. Okay?
Now if you're in here and you're single, you may want to stay single and that's okay. According to First Corinthians, chapter seven, verses seven and eight, you can.
But from my perspective, I'll say that you'll miss out on a lot of blessings that having someone to love and to cherish brings.
Or if you're single, chances are there may be some pretty little filly to come along and capture your heart yet.
Okay?
And if that's a possibility, listen up, don't tune me out, okay? Because God wants to, wants it to work for you too.
Had a preacher friend of mine that a couple of years ago did a wedding ceremony for two 90 year olds that had never been married before.
So you never know.
Let me say something to you. If you are divorced, I'm not going to lecture you about why your marriage might have failed, not trying to lay a guilt trip on you for being divorced and the things that we're going to talk about tonight. And I certainly don't want to dredge up any painful memories for you. In fact, likely it was not your idea. You didn't ask for it, you didn't expect it, you didn't want it and probably wished that you could undo it.
But listen, you are not a second rate person and you are not A second rate Christian because of what happened, regardless of whose fault it was, now it is what it is, and God loves you and he wants to heal your heart.
What I want to do tonight and what I'm sure every married man in here would like also is to encourage you to live your Christian lives from this day forward.
All right. Matthew 19:1 9 came to pass when Jesus had finished these sayings that he departed from Galilee, came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan, and great multitudes followed him and he healed them there.
The Pharisees came to him, testing him. Now notice that they are trying to test him and saying to him, is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any cause?
And he answered and said to them, have you not read that he who made them at the beginning made them male and female? Notice Jesus goes all the way back to the beginning to creation.
And he said, for this reason a man shall leave, as he's quoting from Genesis chapter one, for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So then they are no longer two, but one flesh.
Therefore, what God has joined together, let not man separate.
Jesus, this passage has been discussed and cussed for years. Okay, but Jesus is really wanting us to see one major point here. And here it is.
Stay married. If at all possible, stay married.
There was a Bible class teacher that was teaching men's class on marriage, much like this one is. And there was a man in the class that was coming up on his 50th wedding anniversary. So he, the teacher said, brother, give us some insights into how you've been able to stay married successfully this long. And he said, well, I have tried to be good to her and treat her nice.
I've spent money on her.
But the very best thing that we ever did was I took her to Italy on our 25th wedding anniversary.
And the teacher said, that is great. That's really encouraging.
That's a good example for us.
You're coming up on your 50th. What do you plan to do for your 50th? He said, I'm going to go get her now. My goal tonight in whatever time is left is to help us figure out how to stay married. Help you figure out how to stay married to your wife. Living in the same place and making it work.
There's so much that could be said, and I can't say it in the time that we've got, but hopefully we'll hit on some things that Might be helpful.
What do you think the most important part of a relationship is?
Is it love or passion?
Yeah, I'm talking about sex, romance.
Is it compatibility? Financial security, communication? Is it being on the same page spiritually?
Now, all of these things are important, and I don't want to minimize any of these things because all of them make for a better relationship. But I'm convinced that the most important part of a relationship, and what would be an umbrella over all of these things, is this. And that is continued commitment to that woman and to your relationship.
The one thing that makes a marriage really work, in my judgment, is an unwavering commitment to hang in there and stay at it no matter what happens.
I was married for 58 years to a woman that I fell in love with a long time ago. We were both 19 years old and we had all of those things on the screen. Or at least we worked on and developed those over the years.
But we constantly had to work at it, all of these things. And by the way, I never took her to Italy.
But the only reason we were able to be married for 58 years, and by the way, that's the last picture of us before she passed, is because we made a commitment to God and to each other, and we kept that commitment.
We decided from the get go that divorce was not even going to be in our vocabulary. She had come from a family where both her divorced and she knew the trauma involved.
I want you to look at this passage right here.
Malachi, chapter 2, verses 14 through 16. Somebody read that from the screen out loud, if you would.
[00:12:40] Speaker D: The Lord is acting as the witness between you and the wife of your youth because you have broken faith with her, though she is your partner. The wife of your marriage covenant has not the Lord made them one in flesh and spirit, they are his. And why one? Because he was seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit and do not break faith with the wife of your youth. I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Israel, because it does violence to the one he should protect. So be on guard and do not be unthinkable.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Okay, Let that sink in.
We're gonna look at some other very pointed passages.
And everything that I say tonight, I would like to lay over these commands from God that we're about to look at, including this one right here. So remember these passages as we Continue.
Genesis, chapter two, 20 through 24. Somebody read that one.
[00:13:44] Speaker E: So Adam gave names to all the cattle, to the birds of the air, to every beast of the field. But for Adam, there was not found a helper compatible to him.
And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam. And he slept, and he took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh in its place.
Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man, he made into a woman. And he brought her to the man. And Adam said, this is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.
She shall be called woman because she was taken out of man. And therefore man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
[00:14:20] Speaker B: Now, you didn't read that word, glued, okay?
Because really, that's what that word means. It means fast fastened to glued.
And by the way, that's not Elmer School glue either. According to the original Hebrew, it would be more like J. B. Well, that's what that means. He says, you are joined. I am joining you to them together.
All right. Proverbs, 18:22. Somebody.
Ephesians 5. We're going to start with verse 22 through 24.
[00:15:02] Speaker F: Wives, submit to your own husbands. As to the Lord, the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church, and he is the Savior of the body. Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: We like that one, don't we?
The husband is the head of the wife, and don't you forget it.
That's what. One, two, three verses.
But look. Continuing. Okay, somebody read that one.
[00:15:37] Speaker G: Husbands, love your wives. Just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for her, that he might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the Word, that He might present her to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. So husbands ought to love their own wives and their own bodies. He who loves his wife, loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. For we are members of his body, of his flesh and of his bones. For this reason, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife. And the two shall become one flesh. This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the Church.
Nevertheless, let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself. And let the wife see that she respects her husband.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Look at the amount of space he gives to us in comparison to the women.
Reckon why that is. Don't answer that.
It might go against You. But notice also, we've got this word right here. Again. Word. Join. J.B. well, again.
Okay, how about this one? Somebody.
Husbands, love your wives and do not be bitter toward you. Okay.
First Peter three, seven, husbands, dwell with
[00:17:04] Speaker G: your wife with understanding, giving honor to the wife as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the
[00:17:11] Speaker B: grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
Now, in our culture, that adds to the weaker vessel is not real popular. What does he mean by that? Look at this right here in the New living translation. Somebody read that.
[00:17:26] Speaker H: In the same way, you husbands must give honor to your wives. Treat your wife with understanding as you live together.
She may be weaker than you are, but she is your equal partner and God's gift of life. Treat her as you should so your prayers will not be hindered.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Thank you for doing that.
Now remember these passages as we continue tonight. Okay?
Those of you that are married or those of you that ever been to a wedding, you remember the wedding vows.
I remember standing in front of a Methodist preacher. Her parents were members of the Methodist Church. And mother said, that's where we're going to have the wedding. So that's where we had the wedding.
And we stood in front of him, and he did the traditional vows. He had his little Methodist book, little black book in front of him, and he did the traditional stuff.
How many of you would say today, you probably had, if you're married, the more traditional vows in your wedding? Okay, nowadays, a lot of people are writing their own. Any of you write your own? Yeah. Okay. But basically the vows are the same. We are committing ourselves to one another, right?
So look at this right here about vows.
When a man makes a vow to the Lord or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word, but must do everything he said.
So we might have said something like this, I take you for better or for worse.
Now, maybe like one married lady told me, she said, I didn't know it was going to be more worse and less better.
And she was right.
Here's the best thing I can tell you. Worse is going to be worse than you ever thought it could be. I've known couples that got two weeks in and decided they had married the wrong person.
Now, when we're dating, even during engagement, we're putting our best foot forward. We're watching our tongue, we are holding our temper and so forth.
And it shouldn't be this way. But a lot of times after we've been married for a while, we get a while into it.
Sometimes we quit doing that, we let our hair down, and your real self begins to come out.
So you need to ask yourself this.
What is my real self? Like, am I selfish?
Do I have to have my way?
Do I easily fly off the handle?
Now this. And you better not answer out loud because I would be obligated to call the sheriff. Have you ever hit your wife?
Have you ever shoved her up against the wall or yelled at her real loud?
What is your real self?
But there's some other unchecked things that can make things worse as well.
Personality conflicts come.
She always wants to go out.
You want to stay home, or vice versa.
She's a neat freak and you're a slob.
Or vice versa.
She squeezes a toothpaste from the middle and you squeeze it from the bottom.
Listen, I had a couple almost divorced over that.
All kinds of things can cause conflict if we're not careful.
But for better or for worse, acknowledges we aren't always going to get along perfectly and it isn't going to always be an easy ride.
And you know what? There may be times when you don't like her.
But news flash, there's going to be times when she doesn't like you either.
Okay?
But you know what? You do have to love her.
Even if there's times that you don't like her or like what she's doing or. Or like what she's saying, you do have to love her. And we'll talk some more about that in just a minute.
But also for better or for worse says you're really worth the price. And yes, there may be a price, but you're worth it.
For better or for worse, I'm committed to you.
And when you realize that and she sees that in you, what will I happen in your relationship if she truly sees that?
So for better or for worse, or I take you for richer or for poorer.
It's interesting that either extreme of this, rich or poor, has its own problems. When money's tight, it puts an incredible amount of pressure on the home. True or false, it does.
Every expenditure is opportunity for an argument.
I remember early on, Sandra was working at a job where she was office manager and she did book work for the company that she worked for.
So naturally, she was to do our book work at home. I was too busy doing other things, so she took care of the finances.
I remember one day going in and saying, I'm going to take the car in the morning to get an oil change. And she said, you can't do that. We won't have the money.
And I said, what?
I make all this money. I work all these hours, and you do, too. And I can't get enough money for an oil change. That's back when you can get them for 10 bucks.
She said, nope.
Well, we had a little problem over that, and I'll tell you in a little bit what we did to solve it. But you see, it's hard to relax and enjoy the relationship when you're covered up with financial pressure.
On the other side of the coin, being richer doesn't guarantee marital bliss either.
Though many times we guys think that the more hours we work, the more money we make, the better men we are. You remember what Stan Sara had said a couple of weeks ago about that Our male ego is often tied to what our jobs, how much money we make.
Exactly.
But if you give your wife and your children the choice between less money and more of your time with them, or more money and less time with them, what are they going to choose?
That tells you what is important.
Also, often the more you have, the more you have to worry about and the more independent of each other that you have to be or that you tend to be.
You don't need each other as much if you're independent with your money.
And here's a kicker.
Statistics say that the wealthier a husband is, the more likely he is to have an affair.
Why would that be? You may not agree with that, but that's what the stats say.
Why would that be?
Do what? Arrogance. Arrogance. That certainly could be it.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: You can afford it.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: You can afford it. Okay. Affairs are expensive. That's what you're saying.
Did you realize that the number one cause for marital conflict is not sex? It's not in laws, it's not even infidelity. It's finances.
We need to enter marriage with the understanding that money is a volatile issue and we cannot and we must not let it come between us.
That means that we work harder on the budget.
You know what Sandra and I did? In fact, she demanded it, and I gave in.
After the deal with the oil change, she said, you're going to sit down with me every week and I'm going to show you where our money is going.
And I said, yes, ma'. Am.
And you know what? I understood then.
And it wasn't long before we were actually working together in that instead of me making her do it all.
So for richer or for poor, what about in sickness or in health?
I've known of husbands, numerous ones, who, when their wife got bad sick up and left them.
Would you do that?
You say you wouldn't, but then you start taking care of a sick wife.
And it's perpetual and it's constant, and it's difficult.
Some guys just up and leave.
Now, I've experienced it firsthand, and I know how difficult it is to meet all the needs that an ill person has.
When Sandra took chemo for her breast cancer, it just blew up her neuropathy. She got to where she couldn't use her fingers. There were times when she couldn't even feed herself.
She was numb from her knees down. It was difficult for her to walk.
And then in the last several months of her life, she could not dress herself.
But she was coming to church, and she was going to look good. So guess who dressed her?
I even did her hair.
I put her shoes on.
I buttoned her dress, I buttoned her bra.
I helped her get her panties on.
Those are difficult things.
And then toward the end, some of the hygiene things that she couldn't do for herself. It was difficult.
But you know what?
I did it. And I'm not throwing any accolades at myself, and I'm certainly not complaining.
I remember one Sunday morning. Well, it's actually more than one Sunday morning. We were sitting on a little bench at the end of the bed, and I was trying to help her get her hose on. It was cold and she wanted to wear hose, and it was difficult.
And she started crying, and she said, I am so sorry that you have to do this.
And I said, honey, I don't have to do it.
I'm loving doing it because that's what you need, and I love you that much.
I think part of it was she was just so sad that she couldn't do it for herself.
And I admire people who are willing to do those kinds of things. And I don't want to embarrass them. But my brother Larry right here, has been taking care of his wife with Ms. For how many years? Larry.
But you do it. Why?
Because you love her and because that's what you're supposed to do.
You see what happens when life is no longer fun and exciting?
What if doctor bills drain your retirement and prevent you from having that big house or that boat or that sports car that you've always dreamed of having in sickness and in health.
[00:29:57] Speaker F: So I think this also goes past just the two of you. I think it goes to your family, too. Because I saw my parents struggle a little bit when my mom's mom had dementia and all that kind of stuff. But then Also, when we were going through all the quarter stuff, one of the doctors set us down and said that there's a 60 something percent divorce rate with kids that have HLHS. And the parents, because of the stress it puts them on. And they straight up said that, like they asked, do we need to get counseling for the two of y'?
[00:30:25] Speaker B: All?
[00:30:26] Speaker F: Because your son can't see that even at, you know, less than a year old. So I think very much so, it's the two of you, but also think it's the ones that you put in your life that you love, too, your parents and your kids and things like that. I think this also talks about that.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that.
Be prepared. Decide right now what you will do if something like this happens. Because I can tell you firsthand it very well could.
And you can, too.
To love and to cherish.
Remember that Command in Ephesians 5.
And notice that it is a command.
Guys, you don't have the option to not love your wife.
It's not a suggestion.
And don't come to me and say, I've suddenly discovered that I don't love her anymore.
You know what I'm going to say?
Sorry, dude, you don't have that option.
And I've said that to guys before.
If you've lost your love or you've let another woman have that love, or in the process of doing either of those things, you better grab yourself by the nap of the neck and shake yourself back into your senses, or I'm going to do it for you.
Because you're right on the verge of totally ruining your life forever.
And, man, could I tell you some stories.
Seriously, I've seen too many lives ruined because somebody thought they fell out of love.
Like you fall off of a ladder.
That's stupid.
And it's because they didn't understand in the first place the kind of love that they're supposed to have for their mate. They thought it was all this warm, fuzzy and mushy and sexy stuff.
And after a few years, some of that starts to fade. They think they've fallen out of love.
Listen, the true love that God commands us to have for each other is multifaceted.
And I'm sure you've heard this before, but there are three Greek words for love.
One is phileo, which is family love. This is your mother and your daddy and your brothers and sisters and cousins and aunts and uncles. And by the way, it's used also for your church. Family love. Then there is Eros.
Did I Go. Too quick. No, there's Eros. That's the erotic sexual love. That's passion. Now, it's interesting, that word is never used in the New Testament, but the principles are there.
And then there is agape.
And agape is that love, which is an intellectual decision to love.
And that love, which will always and in every circumstance do what's best for the other person, even if it's not returned.
And that can be hard sometimes. But you know what? The love that God wants us to have for our wives includes all three of these.
We do need family love, because she is family if we marry her.
And the Eros is there, God created that to bind us together emotionally.
But then, of course, agape love is that one which is so very important.
And in fact, the Holy Spirit used this word agape in that passage in Ephesians 5 that we just read.
So here's what God is saying. Husbands, agapata, your wives, love them always, in every circumstance, do what's best for her.
That's what that means sometimes and in all circumstances. That may be hard to do, but that's what God says. Again, it's not optional.
And if you're man enough to do that, what do you think will likely happen in her heart if you show her that kind of love?
So if we boil God's will for marital love down, here's what it turns out to be. It turns out to be a triangular love.
And it's built on three ingredients.
On the one side is passion.
Yep, sex, that's the right chemistry.
The physical attraction, its sexual fulfillment.
And admit it, that's your favorite side.
But that's not the only side.
On another side of the triangle is intimacy.
This is the emotional side. This is shared secrets, emotional bonding, having things in common that most people know about and wouldn't care to know about.
And again, admit it, that's probably her favorite side.
But the danger with these two, passion and intimacy, is that many married people allow themselves to become sexually and emotionally attached to someone else and then deceive themselves into thinking they aren't doing anything wrong because that relationship isn't physical.
Listen, emotional infidelity is just as bad.
You're giving to someone else what God has reserved for the one that he joined you to.
Intimacy is misplaced. That's why the third side of God's triangle is commitment.
Dr. Frank Pittman wrote a book on infidelity, and I'd like to share with you what he said. Most affairs are conducted primarily on the telephone rather than in bed or The Internet, rather than in bed, though it may lead to the bed.
The essence of an affair is in establishing a secret intimacy with. With someone.
A secret that must be defended with dishonesty.
He said, infidelity isn't necessarily about who you lie with.
It's about who you lie to.
So think about that.
So the third thing then is commitment.
Strong commitment to love and to cherish means we make the marriage covenant a priority.
It's special, it's meaningful.
And for how long?
As long as we both shall live.
Sandra and I said that.
And really, that's the crux of commitment. Until death do us part.
I've had three or four times in my ministry, my 40 years of ministry, couples who came to me wanting to get married. And instead of saying, until death do us part, they wanted me to say, until we no longer love.
Would you have done that?
I didn't. I wouldn't do it.
A couple of them, I talked in to him not doing it. I talked them into this.
A couple of them went to somebody else, so be it. I wouldn't do it because they won't stay married. And sure enough, they didn't.
As long as we both should live.
William Bennett, former Secretary of Education, said he went to a wedding where they said that they said, until we no longer love. So he said what he did is he sent them paper plates as a wedding gift.
Brothers, the commitment of marriage is supposed to last until death.
The last days of Sandra's life.
I sat by her bed and the last day of her life.
I held her hand all day and all night so that she would know that she was loved and that I was right there until it was all over.
And I was holding her hand when she drew her last breath.
And while that's a painful memory for me, still it's also a sweet one, because I would not have been anywhere else.
Until death do us part.
So when we make the marriage vows, we're supposed to keep them.
I had some more stuff I'm going to go through right quick.
Commitment to stay married. Work at it. Work hard at it. We did.
Emotionally intimate, physically intimate, intellectually intimate, spiritually. That oneness, the connectedness, the depth, it was commitment.
Work at your marriage.
It matters what I am, what I'm like.
I had all kinds of stuff I was going to show you about. That was my old car when I first bought it. We were going to talk about if your marriage was in trouble, that you could restore it. That's what it looks like now. Okay, that's enough of that we don't want to trade her in or junk it. We're going to bring car parts and we're going to put those parts together. Here's what Max Lucado said as we finish up.
Satan won't suddenly steal your home from you. He'll paint it a familiar coat of drabness. He'll replace evenings on the town with evenings in the recliner. He'll replace the evening gown with the bathrobe. And romance with routine. He'll scatter the dust of yesteryear over the wedding pictures so that they seem like another couple in another time.
Don't let that happen to you.
Okay?
I'll leave you with this one thought.
You really need to ask this question, and you need to ask it fairly often.
If this was the last week I had my wife on Earth, how would I treat her?
What would I do for her?
How would I serve her?
How would she know that I loved her?
Because, guys, I know it could very well be.
I appreciate your attention. Hope this has been helpful.
[00:42:32] Speaker C: Can I say something before we leave?
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Sure. You're overtime. So it's not me.
[00:42:36] Speaker C: I've been in church all my life, just like you have, like most of us in this room have. And I think we have failed to do something.
And here's what it is.
How many guys was 40 plus years.
Put your hands up again. 40 plus years.
Okay. That doesn't mean we know all the answers, does it, Ronnie? Or that we've got it perfect. But here's what I don't think we've done. We teach a class like this.
And I know and you guys know there's men in this room that are struggling with their marriages right now.
Right now.
They're not going to go to a counselor because it's embarrassing or they don't want to embarrass their wife.
They're not going to come to a church employed counselor, because that's even harder. They don't want to go to a preacher. We've got fantastic eldership here that loves you.
But I think we need to say this, guys. If you are struggling, ask somebody.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:43:35] Speaker C: Talk to one of us. You're not going through anything that if we just take that group of 40 plus hasn't experienced it as well. I guarantee it.
Guarantee it.
Don't do it alone.
You go to the world to get advice. They're gonna say, why are you doing this? Just walk away.
But we are here.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:44:00] Speaker C: Thank you for letting me say that.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: Sure. Any thoughts or comments?
[00:44:04] Speaker E: Sunday's lesson said that if you sin, tell your brother or talk to a brother. Because if you sin against yourself or you know the brother sinned against you, or, however it was worded, to talk to the brother, but you cannot move forward or move on unless you have forgiven yourself of that sin.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: So.
Roadblocks.
That's true. Very good.
Anyone else?
Thank you very much.
